Unfortunately all of their claims relied on faulty f-stats interpretations. The Takarkori genomes model perfectly as a mixture between the Iberomaurusians and a sub-saharan population intermediate between West African Niger-Congo and Nilotic populations. Using Yoruba and Dinka as a references gets you about 1/3 for each component. An interesting part is that various Saharan speaking populations, or the isolated Laal population, both somewhat in proximity to the Takarkori site, perfectly capture this intermediate position but this is more likely to be superficial similarity than a direct link in my opinion. The samples also seem to lack direct ancestry from Natufian or Levant PPNB-derived populations, which fits with their mtdna N lineage not sharing any recent connections with extant N haplogroups.
The material culture of Takarkori fits perfectly as a population from the chain of wavy line pottery hunter-fishers found across the Sahara adopting pastoralism, similar to what we see in central Sudan in the archaeological record (Leiterband complex near Wadi Howar for ex). This pottery-fisher complex has been associated with Nilo-Saharan languages by researchers such as Roger Blench. Aside from the pottery connection between dotted/wavy line and Nilo-Saharan groups, the matrilineal burial custom also seems in line with this. Then we have the element of physical anthropology perfectly aligning too, as the TKK physical remains were quite similar to those found in other Saharan sites.
The problem highlights how this field suffers from geneticists completely lacking any archaeological or anthropological context for the periods they are investigating, and also highlights the importance of independent analyses in DNA. Unfortunately it is not the case in this field that you can just assume that a published article has a correct analysis.
You're welcome! And please do not take my words for granted here (although I do have some familiarity with this region), and have a critical look yourself. Setting up Admixturetools without prior experience might be a bit too much but something like Vahaduo G25 might suit you.
I watched a video on Robert Sepher YouTube channel where he showed a video presentation of geneticist showing the migration of populations of The world dating hundred to thousand years that there’s never been any out of out of Africa genetics in the white population. white slaves into Africa. But there’s never African genetics found in Europe or in the Americas or Asia
Presumably, you are unfamiliar with The Urantia Book, which was published in 1955. The book has a detailed account of planetary history, especially concerning the last 1,000,000 years of human history. Specifically, regarding your topic of interest, it says:
(78:1.10) The Sahara civilization: The superior elements of the indigo [black] race had their most progressive settlements in what is now the great Sahara desert. ...
(78:3.5) As the period of the early Adamic migrations ended, about 15,000 B.C. ...
(78:3.7) The Saharan civilization had been disrupted by drought ...
(80:1.4) But during the earlier times there was little to hinder the westward migration of the Adamites. The Sahara was an open grazing land overspread by herders and agriculturists. These Saharans never engaged in manufacture, nor were they city builders. They were an indigo-black group which carried extensive strains of the extinct green and orange races. ...
For about twenty years, I have been documenting how new discoveries and scientific advances are increasingly verifying Urantia Book history. The authors said this would happen.
I cannot keep up with all the ways science is catching up to this book. I did start a research page related to your topic and hope to get it more developed soon. There isn't much there now. Sorry.
But the page will at least get you to my website and provide you some very intriguing information about the history of humanity, which will lead you to more developed aspects of my work. In particular, the Sahara research page starts with information about who Adam and Eve were and the type of genetic contribution they made to our gene pool. It also explains the colored races in detail.
The Urantia Book is in the public domain, so the whole thing (over 2000 page) is posted on my site, along with annotations. Enjoy!
Unfortunately all of their claims relied on faulty f-stats interpretations. The Takarkori genomes model perfectly as a mixture between the Iberomaurusians and a sub-saharan population intermediate between West African Niger-Congo and Nilotic populations. Using Yoruba and Dinka as a references gets you about 1/3 for each component. An interesting part is that various Saharan speaking populations, or the isolated Laal population, both somewhat in proximity to the Takarkori site, perfectly capture this intermediate position but this is more likely to be superficial similarity than a direct link in my opinion. The samples also seem to lack direct ancestry from Natufian or Levant PPNB-derived populations, which fits with their mtdna N lineage not sharing any recent connections with extant N haplogroups.
The material culture of Takarkori fits perfectly as a population from the chain of wavy line pottery hunter-fishers found across the Sahara adopting pastoralism, similar to what we see in central Sudan in the archaeological record (Leiterband complex near Wadi Howar for ex). This pottery-fisher complex has been associated with Nilo-Saharan languages by researchers such as Roger Blench. Aside from the pottery connection between dotted/wavy line and Nilo-Saharan groups, the matrilineal burial custom also seems in line with this. Then we have the element of physical anthropology perfectly aligning too, as the TKK physical remains were quite similar to those found in other Saharan sites.
The problem highlights how this field suffers from geneticists completely lacking any archaeological or anthropological context for the periods they are investigating, and also highlights the importance of independent analyses in DNA. Unfortunately it is not the case in this field that you can just assume that a published article has a correct analysis.
I've been thinking about this reply since yesterday, thanks, a really well thought through counter-argument.
You're welcome! And please do not take my words for granted here (although I do have some familiarity with this region), and have a critical look yourself. Setting up Admixturetools without prior experience might be a bit too much but something like Vahaduo G25 might suit you.
https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/
https://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2019/07/getting-most-out-of-global25_12.html
Scaled coordinates:
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Libya_Takarkori_N:TKH001_tr.SG.TW,-0.458707,0.076165,-0.002263,-0.028101,0.01231,-0.017291,-0.057578,0.034152,0.07506,-0.017859,-0.001786,0.006145,0.021556,-0.027525,0.03203,-0.02201,0.012126,-0.032179,-0.041229,0.003502,-0.014724,-0.043526,0.026991,-0.005181,0.002754
Libya_Takarkori_N:TKH001_tr_all,-0.455292,0.078196,-0.003771,-0.026486,0.010463,-0.018965,-0.058518,0.032537,0.077719,-0.019864,-0.001786,0.003897,0.020664,-0.025598,0.033387,-0.023734,0.010561,-0.032559,-0.036452,0.007504,-0.0141,-0.045504,0.029703,-0.006868,0.010179
Raw coordinates:
Libya_Takarkori_N:TKH001,-0.04,0.0075,-0.0017,-0.0073,0.0031,-0.0056,-0.0253,0.0151,0.0374,-0.0124,-0.0031,0.0014,0.0127,-0.0188,0.0244,-0.0195,0.0076,-0.023,-0.03,0.0052,-0.011,-0.0376,0.0222,-0.0022,0.0041
Libya_Takarkori_N:TKH001_tr.SG.TW,-0.0403,0.0075,-0.0006,-0.0087,0.004,-0.0062,-0.0245,0.0148,0.0367,-0.0098,-0.0011,0.0041,0.0145,-0.02,0.0236,-0.0166,0.0093,-0.0254,-0.0328,0.0028,-0.0118,-0.0352,0.0219,-0.0043,0.0023
Libya_Takarkori_N:TKH001_tr_all,-0.04,0.0077,-0.001,-0.0082,0.0034,-0.0068,-0.0249,0.0141,0.038,-0.0109,-0.0011,0.0026,0.0139,-0.0186,0.0246,-0.0179,0.0081,-0.0257,-0.029,0.006,-0.0113,-0.0368,0.0241,-0.0057,0.0085
This thread on GenArchivist would be good to skim through as well:
https://genarchivist.net/showthread.php?tid=1425
Amazing! Thank you
I watched a video on Robert Sepher YouTube channel where he showed a video presentation of geneticist showing the migration of populations of The world dating hundred to thousand years that there’s never been any out of out of Africa genetics in the white population. white slaves into Africa. But there’s never African genetics found in Europe or in the Americas or Asia
Presumably, you are unfamiliar with The Urantia Book, which was published in 1955. The book has a detailed account of planetary history, especially concerning the last 1,000,000 years of human history. Specifically, regarding your topic of interest, it says:
(78:1.10) The Sahara civilization: The superior elements of the indigo [black] race had their most progressive settlements in what is now the great Sahara desert. ...
(78:3.5) As the period of the early Adamic migrations ended, about 15,000 B.C. ...
(78:3.7) The Saharan civilization had been disrupted by drought ...
(80:1.4) But during the earlier times there was little to hinder the westward migration of the Adamites. The Sahara was an open grazing land overspread by herders and agriculturists. These Saharans never engaged in manufacture, nor were they city builders. They were an indigo-black group which carried extensive strains of the extinct green and orange races. ...
For about twenty years, I have been documenting how new discoveries and scientific advances are increasingly verifying Urantia Book history. The authors said this would happen.
I cannot keep up with all the ways science is catching up to this book. I did start a research page related to your topic and hope to get it more developed soon. There isn't much there now. Sorry.
But the page will at least get you to my website and provide you some very intriguing information about the history of humanity, which will lead you to more developed aspects of my work. In particular, the Sahara research page starts with information about who Adam and Eve were and the type of genetic contribution they made to our gene pool. It also explains the colored races in detail.
The Urantia Book is in the public domain, so the whole thing (over 2000 page) is posted on my site, along with annotations. Enjoy!
https://ubannotated.com/ubthenews/topics/sahara-research-page/
Robert Sepher an anthropologist got a popular YouTube channel. You can go watch the video posted about six months ago
It’s got all the maps and migration patterns,
Africans just stay right there in their little huge continent